dns61.telus.com has no CNAME records.
Question and response
Question
dig dns61.telus.com. NS
Answer
The response has no answer records.
Authority
telus.com. 1238 SOA dns40.telus.com. dnsadmin2.telus.com. 2019102508 900 7200 3600000 3600
Additional
. 0 OPT ; payload 1232, xrcode 0, version 0, flags 0